IS HOCKEYTOWN STILL A REAL THING OR JUST A MARKETING WORD WE WON'T LET GO OF?

by HockeytownHank· 7 replies· started 8d ago
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HH

I'm going to ask the uncomfortable question because somebody has to. Is Detroit still Hockeytown, or are we coasting on a trademark from 1996?

When we coined it we'd earned it. Sellouts every night, the best team in the world, a city that genuinely lived and died with the team. But we've missed the playoffs ten years running. I've seen empty seats at LCA for a midweek game against a bad team. I've heard transplants in this city who couldn't name three current players. The banner says Hockeytown but does the behavior still back it up, or have we been writing checks against a reputation we built thirty years ago?

I'm not trying to be a doomer. I genuinely want to know if the identity is still alive under the losing or if we're just protecting a brand. Convince me we still are what the floor says we are.

MM

i'm in that building most nights so let me answer from the seats. the empty midweek seats against a bad team are real, i won't lie about it. but the night the team gives the crowd ONE thing to believe in, that building remembers what it is instantly. the identity isn't gone, it's dormant. ten years of golf in april will quiet any barn. give us one real spring and you'll see hockeytown wake up so loud it scares you. it's sleeping, not dead.

DG
doug_g8d ago

I'll take the bleaker read because someone should. Identity built on winning erodes when the winning stops, and ten years is long enough that we've raised a cohort of casuals who've literally never seen us be Hockeytown. The diehards are still diehard, but a fanbase isn't just its diehards. The brand is doing a lot of load bearing work that the on ice product stopped doing a decade ago. I don't think it's dead. I think it's on life support that a playoff run could revive, and a few more empty Aprils could pull the plug on.

OT

Hank, I lived here before Hockeytown was a word, and I'll tell you a secret: this was a hockey town through the Dead Wings years too, the lean decades nobody wants to remember when we were a punchline. The identity didn't start in 1996, the marketing did. The identity is older and tougher than the trademark. It survived the 70s when we were genuinely awful. It'll survive ten quiet years. The word is recent. The thing the word describes is bone deep and it doesn't need a banner's permission to exist.

RD

From the grassroots level it's alive and it isn't close. The youth rinks in metro Detroit are packed. Beer leagues have waiting lists. The pond hockey when it freezes is a whole culture. The NHL team being bad for a decade didn't make Michigan stop being a hockey state. Hockeytown was never only about the pros being good. It's about a region where everyone's cousin played. That part never dipped.

AA
fenwickfanMod8d ago

Otto and Randy are making the point I'd make with data. Market depth survives losing in a way casual front running fandom doesn't. The empty midweek seats Hank saw are the soft casual layer thinning out, which happens everywhere a team is bad. But the structural base, youth participation, multigenerational households, the beer league waiting lists Randy mentioned, those held. Hockeytown as a marketing peak is gone for now. Hockeytown as a regional fact is intact. Those are two different claims and Hank's question conflates them.

GH

Otto already said the wise thing so I'll just second it from one old man to the board. I watched the Dead Wings years. Half empty barn, bad teams, a town that loved them anyway because the love wasn't conditional on the standings. Hockeytown was a true thing before it was a slogan and slapping a word on it didn't create it. Hank, the brand is coasting, you're right about that. But the thing under the brand was never the brand. It's still here. It's just quiet, the way devotion gets quiet when it's waiting.

HH

ALRIGHT. i came in ready to mourn the identity and you all just talked me back off the ledge with the one argument i didn't consider: it existed before the slogan, through worse years, at the grassroots, in the rinks. the brand is coasting. the THING is not. i'll accept that. molly's right that one real spring wakes the giant. i'll stop writing the obituary. hockeytown's just napping. but somebody better get it a playoff run before it gets too comfortable sleeping.

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